小弟於前2週量了NO3，居然高達100，經過3天連續小量換水每天約換30公升，小弟總水量約為300公升，連續三天，仍不見好轉！於是小弟把底部缸的水抽光(此時馬達沒有運轉，所以底部缸跟主缸的水是沒有相通的)，然後添加新水開始運轉，過數小時後量測NO3值為50，還是很高，隔天小弟狠下心把底部缸的砂(非活砂)全都清出來清洗一遍，然後把水也抽光，添加新水，開始運轉，隔數小時後量測NO3值為25，今天小弟又從主缸更換約65公升的水，隔數小時後，量測NO3值仍為25，顯示純換水對我的缸來說無法降低NO3，必須要清底缸才有明顯降低情勢，此時問題來了，NO3的來源是否是底部缸裡的砂(粗的)造成的，是否要把砂全部移出，讓底部缸變成器材緩衝缸呢？還是小弟必須添購一台硝酸鹽化除器，小弟並非活砂系統，應該屬於柏林系統，因為小弟缸中放了大量活石，但問題又來了，既然有大量活石，為何NO3又會如此高呢，是否跟小弟的餵食習慣有關呢？小弟於發現NO3超高之前，幾乎每天餵食冷凍浮游生物及豐年蝦，且量不少喔，底部缸都有冷凍豐年蝦的屍體殘骸！是否是這樣造成的？但發現超高後，就沒有再餵冷凍食物了，連餵顆粒飼料都減少了，問題又來了，若小弟不把底部缸的砂移除，然後添加一台硝酸鹽化除器，能降低缸中的NO3嗎？請各位大大救救我吧！
[求助]NO3快把我搞死了！救救我！
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小弟於前2週量了NO3，居然高達100
What kind of test kit?? You sure you used it correctly?? You sure the test kit is not some outdated products?? How long has this tank been set up?? With a mature system, one might need to dilute the test kit in order to get a lower level reading.
小弟總水量約為300公升
So you have a 120 gallon system, like the ones I have. How much live rock you have in it. Been visiting the Taiwan site for a while so I am going to ask you this question. You sure you got the live rock?? You might purchased the base rock instead.
隔天小弟狠下心把底部缸的砂(非活砂)全都清出來清洗一遍
What is the purpose of this?? Why put sand in the sump?? Filtration purpose?? If that is the case, then forget it. You need a sump that is either 2X larger than your main tank for this to work. Let's assumed you do have a sump that is 240 gallon, the depth of the sand bed needs to exceed 8". The size of the sand should be sugar grine and needs to be live.
NO3的來源是否是底部缸裡的砂(粗的)造成的
yes, since you do not have enough surfacing area, and the sand is not "Live", this compartment became a waste build up facility.
是否要把砂全部移出
I would strongly suggest you do so.
還是小弟必須添購一台硝酸鹽化除器
I see no points in this gadget.
既然有大量活石，為何NO3又會如此高呢
Again, you sure you got the live rock and not some base rock which is deseier and lack of the porous surfacing area?? If you did in fact got the live rock, do you have sufficient amount to support the system you have??
若小弟不把底部缸的砂移除，然後添加一台硝酸鹽化除器，能降低缸中的NO3嗎？
Not really. The current set up will work against each other. That means your sump's sand bed will continue to produce Nitrate by the trapped debries, un-eatten food, fish waste, etc... and the Nitrate reducer will contintue to take out the nitrate at its capacity. The nitrate reducer will continue to take out the nitrate from the sand bed and eventually, overwhelmed by the nitrate produced by the main tank and the sump and stop working.
Now, here is my question to you. Do you have a pre-filter sponge in your overflow??? How can the un-eatten food got into the sump?? Do you have any sand in the main tank?? If yes, what is the size, depth and base material for the sand?? You never mention skimmer? besides the live rock, what other means of filteration do you have? You have about 11 fish, what size are they?? You have the sump?? What is the size of this sump?? Seemed to me you have a lot of problems with your set up. Suggested by the LFS again?? I can feel your pain. Take care and HTH!
What kind of test kit?? You sure you used it correctly?? You sure the test kit is not some outdated products?? How long has this tank been set up?? With a mature system, one might need to dilute the test kit in order to get a lower level reading.
小弟總水量約為300公升
So you have a 120 gallon system, like the ones I have. How much live rock you have in it. Been visiting the Taiwan site for a while so I am going to ask you this question. You sure you got the live rock?? You might purchased the base rock instead.
隔天小弟狠下心把底部缸的砂(非活砂)全都清出來清洗一遍
What is the purpose of this?? Why put sand in the sump?? Filtration purpose?? If that is the case, then forget it. You need a sump that is either 2X larger than your main tank for this to work. Let's assumed you do have a sump that is 240 gallon, the depth of the sand bed needs to exceed 8". The size of the sand should be sugar grine and needs to be live.
NO3的來源是否是底部缸裡的砂(粗的)造成的
yes, since you do not have enough surfacing area, and the sand is not "Live", this compartment became a waste build up facility.
是否要把砂全部移出
I would strongly suggest you do so.
還是小弟必須添購一台硝酸鹽化除器
I see no points in this gadget.
既然有大量活石，為何NO3又會如此高呢
Again, you sure you got the live rock and not some base rock which is deseier and lack of the porous surfacing area?? If you did in fact got the live rock, do you have sufficient amount to support the system you have??
若小弟不把底部缸的砂移除，然後添加一台硝酸鹽化除器，能降低缸中的NO3嗎？
Not really. The current set up will work against each other. That means your sump's sand bed will continue to produce Nitrate by the trapped debries, un-eatten food, fish waste, etc... and the Nitrate reducer will contintue to take out the nitrate at its capacity. The nitrate reducer will continue to take out the nitrate from the sand bed and eventually, overwhelmed by the nitrate produced by the main tank and the sump and stop working.
Now, here is my question to you. Do you have a pre-filter sponge in your overflow??? How can the un-eatten food got into the sump?? Do you have any sand in the main tank?? If yes, what is the size, depth and base material for the sand?? You never mention skimmer? besides the live rock, what other means of filteration do you have? You have about 11 fish, what size are they?? You have the sump?? What is the size of this sump?? Seemed to me you have a lot of problems with your set up. Suggested by the LFS again?? I can feel your pain. Take care and HTH!
應該是說任何系統或設備都不能去除大量的no3........
影響no3最大的原因是餵食.........和生物數量.....
要減少no3的形成....積極的做法
增加skimmer的效能(換大一點的或是高效率的)....定期清洗底部缸中的砂(或是拿掉或是改用厚的生化棉以橫向放置..每週清洗一片)...減少餵食和生物
裝設硝酸鹽化除器.....
如果您是fo缸.......no3<25應該就可以了........
no3破百也沒什麼大不了的........改善就好了,不用重設......
主因不改善....重設也只是短期改善而已.......
影響no3最大的原因是餵食.........和生物數量.....
要減少no3的形成....積極的做法
增加skimmer的效能(換大一點的或是高效率的)....定期清洗底部缸中的砂(或是拿掉或是改用厚的生化棉以橫向放置..每週清洗一片)...減少餵食和生物
裝設硝酸鹽化除器.....
如果您是fo缸.......no3<25應該就可以了........
no3破百也沒什麼大不了的........改善就好了,不用重設......
主因不改善....重設也只是短期改善而已.......
把底部缸部分砂全部清出.......是因為砂石太重不好清洗........而且不能分量清洗...ccc
換成白綿要常更換或生化棉就要常清洗.....用不著一次洗(換)全部喔.....要放置成...水==>[][][]==>馬達......這樣一來就可以每週清洗(更換)第一片..再把第二;三片前移到第一,二片的位置..再把清洗完(更換)的第一片放到原來第三片的位置........ccc
我的fo缸的底部缸就是這樣放置厚生化棉的...後來因為魚隻很少...連生化棉和skimmer都拿掉了,底部缸空無一物(no3也超過50)......ccc.....最近想收缸...因為電費太貴了(以前是半價)..但又捨不去對魚的喜愛.......ccc....應該會再重設...
換成白綿要常更換或生化棉就要常清洗.....用不著一次洗(換)全部喔.....要放置成...水==>[][][]==>馬達......這樣一來就可以每週清洗(更換)第一片..再把第二;三片前移到第一,二片的位置..再把清洗完(更換)的第一片放到原來第三片的位置........ccc
我的fo缸的底部缸就是這樣放置厚生化棉的...後來因為魚隻很少...連生化棉和skimmer都拿掉了,底部缸空無一物(no3也超過50)......ccc.....最近想收缸...因為電費太貴了(以前是半價)..但又捨不去對魚的喜愛.......ccc....應該會再重設...
