消除(但願是永久性的)魚缸裡的綠絲藻，汽泡藻, 草皮狀藻和紅泥藻最簡單+最低成本的方法
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使用漂浮式藻類洗滌器13天 海藻生長情況。 這次用的是4個3瓦的LED 燈， 660nm（紅色）。可以用CFL 燈來替換。
First 13 days of growth in a floating surface scrubber. This one used four LEDs of 3 watts each, 660nm (red), but you could also use a CFL bulb...
First 13 days of growth in a floating surface scrubber. This one used four LEDs of 3 watts each, 660nm (red), but you could also use a CFL bulb...
今天突然想到所以就再上來再看一下
看起來用這種方式的人還是不多...
嗯，順便再更新一下目前的狀況好了...
啟用至今已經約一年五個月了
大概半年前(或更早前)發現一邊的 10W LED 植物燈壞了
不過因為工作忙、玩遙控直昇機、玩花花草草、買不到一樣的燈(用並聯的方式所以不容易再加別種燈)等理由
所以就一直擱著不管了
(所以一邊的水流也就浪費了)
大概兩個星期要清一次
如果拖到三個星期的話
有些藻看起來似乎會開始腐爛 (應該是水流及光線不夠)
中間的"濾網"網格太大了
所以清除藻類時很多會卡住而不好清
沒清乾淨的結果也會導致放回去後很多破碎的藻被沖進缸子造成二次污染
缸子完全只靠這種過濾
魚口只有四條吃飼料的小魚
一天餵兩至三次
低等藻還是略佔優勢
大概每三、四個月還是得要買一隻美國海牛來除藻 (一、兩個月後就餓死了)
但紅藻泥已經蠻久沒見到了
這樣子的結果大概也不算太糟
不過離理想還遠得很
要是再多一條魚大概就真的完全應付不來了 (最近我女兒一直在講要養小丑魚...)
現在覺得應該改成我當初想的滑水道的方式來做
這樣子除藻方便多了
水流也幾乎能夠 100% 利用
要是接下來這幾個月沒有真的撤缸的話
也許再重新設計一個新的吧...
看起來用這種方式的人還是不多...
嗯，順便再更新一下目前的狀況好了...
啟用至今已經約一年五個月了
大概半年前(或更早前)發現一邊的 10W LED 植物燈壞了
不過因為工作忙、玩遙控直昇機、玩花花草草、買不到一樣的燈(用並聯的方式所以不容易再加別種燈)等理由
所以就一直擱著不管了
(所以一邊的水流也就浪費了)
大概兩個星期要清一次
如果拖到三個星期的話
有些藻看起來似乎會開始腐爛 (應該是水流及光線不夠)
中間的"濾網"網格太大了
所以清除藻類時很多會卡住而不好清
沒清乾淨的結果也會導致放回去後很多破碎的藻被沖進缸子造成二次污染
缸子完全只靠這種過濾
魚口只有四條吃飼料的小魚
一天餵兩至三次
低等藻還是略佔優勢
大概每三、四個月還是得要買一隻美國海牛來除藻 (一、兩個月後就餓死了)
但紅藻泥已經蠻久沒見到了
這樣子的結果大概也不算太糟
不過離理想還遠得很
要是再多一條魚大概就真的完全應付不來了 (最近我女兒一直在講要養小丑魚...)
現在覺得應該改成我當初想的滑水道的方式來做
這樣子除藻方便多了
水流也幾乎能夠 100% 利用
要是接下來這幾個月沒有真的撤缸的話
也許再重新設計一個新的吧...
OP
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磷酸盐流出来的岩石
很多人，当他们得到他们洗涤器运行的第一次，感到担心的时候多（不低于）藻类开始生长在他们的岩石。看来真的很奇怪，尤其是当硝酸盐和磷酸盐也水涨船高比以前低。正在发生的事情是，磷酸盐是走出来的岩石。请记住，磷酸盐是看不见的，所以你只能看到它的效果，它总是“流”从高浓度到低浓度（就像热量一样） 。
例如：如果你的房间是温暖，而你把一个冷的物体放在地上，从室内空气的热量将“流”入对象，直到物体与空气的温度相同。例2：如果把一个热物体在地板上，热量将“流”出的对象和进入空气在房间里，再次，直至空气与物体的温度相同。现在假设你打开你的窗户（冬天） 。在你的房间温暖的空气会走出去的窗口，它会在寒冷的房间。地板上的对象现在比空气变暖，所以热量将流出物和进入空气，然后窗外。
认为磷酸盐作为热量，你的岩石为对象，和你的窗，作为洗涤器。作为涤气器拉磷酸盐出来的水，在水中的磷酸盐水平下降。现在，由于在水中的磷酸盐水平比在岩石中的磷酸盐水平较低，磷酸盐从岩石流入水中，然后从水进入洗涤器。这种情况持续下去，直到在岩石和水的磷酸盐水平又是电平。请记住，你不能看到这个无形的流量。
这种流动导致了一个有趣的事情发生了。由于磷酸出来的岩石，它就会变为可用尽快磷酸盐到达那里是轻的岩石表面饲料藻类。所以，既然岩石的表面粗糙，有轻，它开始变得越来越有藻（不小于）作为磷酸出来的岩石。这是一个非常惊人的事情，看看第一次，因为如果你不知道发生了什么事你可能会认为，在洗涤器中的藻类被泄露出来，连接到你的岩石。下面是磷酸盐出来的岩石的迹象：
1，岩石是年龄大了，已经慢慢发展在过去一年中的藻类问题。
2，洗涤器是新的，也许只有几个月大，而且最近开始生长良好。
3，硝酸盐和水磷酸盐测量低，通常是最低的，他们已经在很长一段时间。
4，绿色的头发藻类（未棕色）的岩石上在特定的地点有所增加，通常在角落和突起的顶部。
5，玻璃没有必要清洗一样多。
由于撇油器，过滤袋等不删除任何硝酸盐和磷酸盐，以及waterchanges和宏观的在华夫格不要删除了，大多数人从未见过的迅速出来的岩石大量磷酸盐的影响。但肯定的是，它的作用。多久继续吗？ 2个月到一年的时间，这取决于多磷酸盐是如何在岩石上，你有多强的洗涤器，以及有多少磷酸根去除过滤器有（ GFO ，炭投加等） 。但有一天你会看到白色的岩石前一天被覆盖在绿色的头发的补丁;这是藻类从岩石失去磷酸供应一个明确的信号，不能再坚持下去。现在它只是短短几天之前的岩石是明确的。
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Phosphate Flow out of Rocks
Many people, when they get their scrubber running for the first time, get worried when more (not less) algae starts to grow on their rocks. It seems really strange, especially when nitrate and phosphate have gone lower than before. What is happening is that phosphate is coming out of the rocks. Remember, phosphate is invisible, so you can only see the effects of it, and it always "flows" from higher concentrations to lower concentrations (just like heat does).
Example: If your room is warm, and you put a cold object on the floor, heat from the air in the room will "flow" into the object until the object and the air are the same temperature. Example 2: If you put a hot object on the floor, heat will "flow" out of the object and go into the air in the room, again, until the air and the object are the same temperature. Now suppose you open your windows (in the winter). The warm air in your room will go out the windows, and it will get colder in the room. The object on the floor is now warmer than the air, so heat will flow out of the object and into the air, and then out the window.
Think of phosphate as the heat, and your rocks as the object, and your windows as the scrubber. As the scrubber pulls phosphate out of the water, the phosphate level in the water drops. Now, since the phosphate level in the water is lower than the phosphate level in the rocks, phosphate flows from the rocks into the water, and then from the water into the scrubber. This continues until the phosphate levels in the rocks and water are level again. And remember, you can't see this invisible flow.
This flow causes an interesting thing happens. As the phosphate comes out of the rocks, it then becomes available to feed algae as soon as the phosphate reaches the surface of the rocks where there is light. So, since the surface of the rocks is rough and has light, it starts growing MORE algae there (not less) as the phosphate comes out of the rocks. This is a pretty amazing thing to see for the first time, because if you did not know what was happening you would probably think that the algae in the scrubber was leaking out and attaching to your rocks. Here are the signs of phosphate coming out of the rocks:
1. The rocks are older, and have slowly developed algae problems in the past year.
2. The scrubber is new, maybe only a few months old, and has recently started to grow well.
3. Nitrate and phosphate measurements in the water are low, usually the lowest they have been in a long time.
4. Green hair algae (not brown) on the rocks has increased in certain spots, usually on corners and protrusions at the top.
5. The glass has not needed cleaning as much.
Since skimmers, filter socks, etc don't remove any nitrate and phosphate, and waterchanges and macro's in a fuge don't remove much, most people have never seen the effects of large amounts of phosphate coming out of the rocks quickly. But sure enough, it does. How long does it continue? For 2 months to a year, depending on how much phosphate is in the rocks, how strong your scrubber is, and how many other phosphate-removing filters you have (GFO, carbon dosing, etc). But one day you will see patches of white rock that were covered in green hair the day before; this is a sure sign that the algae are losing their phosphate supply from the rocks and can no longer hold on. Now it's just a matter of days before the rocks are clear.
很多人，当他们得到他们洗涤器运行的第一次，感到担心的时候多（不低于）藻类开始生长在他们的岩石。看来真的很奇怪，尤其是当硝酸盐和磷酸盐也水涨船高比以前低。正在发生的事情是，磷酸盐是走出来的岩石。请记住，磷酸盐是看不见的，所以你只能看到它的效果，它总是“流”从高浓度到低浓度（就像热量一样） 。
例如：如果你的房间是温暖，而你把一个冷的物体放在地上，从室内空气的热量将“流”入对象，直到物体与空气的温度相同。例2：如果把一个热物体在地板上，热量将“流”出的对象和进入空气在房间里，再次，直至空气与物体的温度相同。现在假设你打开你的窗户（冬天） 。在你的房间温暖的空气会走出去的窗口，它会在寒冷的房间。地板上的对象现在比空气变暖，所以热量将流出物和进入空气，然后窗外。
认为磷酸盐作为热量，你的岩石为对象，和你的窗，作为洗涤器。作为涤气器拉磷酸盐出来的水，在水中的磷酸盐水平下降。现在，由于在水中的磷酸盐水平比在岩石中的磷酸盐水平较低，磷酸盐从岩石流入水中，然后从水进入洗涤器。这种情况持续下去，直到在岩石和水的磷酸盐水平又是电平。请记住，你不能看到这个无形的流量。
这种流动导致了一个有趣的事情发生了。由于磷酸出来的岩石，它就会变为可用尽快磷酸盐到达那里是轻的岩石表面饲料藻类。所以，既然岩石的表面粗糙，有轻，它开始变得越来越有藻（不小于）作为磷酸出来的岩石。这是一个非常惊人的事情，看看第一次，因为如果你不知道发生了什么事你可能会认为，在洗涤器中的藻类被泄露出来，连接到你的岩石。下面是磷酸盐出来的岩石的迹象：
1，岩石是年龄大了，已经慢慢发展在过去一年中的藻类问题。
2，洗涤器是新的，也许只有几个月大，而且最近开始生长良好。
3，硝酸盐和水磷酸盐测量低，通常是最低的，他们已经在很长一段时间。
4，绿色的头发藻类（未棕色）的岩石上在特定的地点有所增加，通常在角落和突起的顶部。
5，玻璃没有必要清洗一样多。
由于撇油器，过滤袋等不删除任何硝酸盐和磷酸盐，以及waterchanges和宏观的在华夫格不要删除了，大多数人从未见过的迅速出来的岩石大量磷酸盐的影响。但肯定的是，它的作用。多久继续吗？ 2个月到一年的时间，这取决于多磷酸盐是如何在岩石上，你有多强的洗涤器，以及有多少磷酸根去除过滤器有（ GFO ，炭投加等） 。但有一天你会看到白色的岩石前一天被覆盖在绿色的头发的补丁;这是藻类从岩石失去磷酸供应一个明确的信号，不能再坚持下去。现在它只是短短几天之前的岩石是明确的。
-------------------- ENGLISH -------------------
Phosphate Flow out of Rocks
Many people, when they get their scrubber running for the first time, get worried when more (not less) algae starts to grow on their rocks. It seems really strange, especially when nitrate and phosphate have gone lower than before. What is happening is that phosphate is coming out of the rocks. Remember, phosphate is invisible, so you can only see the effects of it, and it always "flows" from higher concentrations to lower concentrations (just like heat does).
Example: If your room is warm, and you put a cold object on the floor, heat from the air in the room will "flow" into the object until the object and the air are the same temperature. Example 2: If you put a hot object on the floor, heat will "flow" out of the object and go into the air in the room, again, until the air and the object are the same temperature. Now suppose you open your windows (in the winter). The warm air in your room will go out the windows, and it will get colder in the room. The object on the floor is now warmer than the air, so heat will flow out of the object and into the air, and then out the window.
Think of phosphate as the heat, and your rocks as the object, and your windows as the scrubber. As the scrubber pulls phosphate out of the water, the phosphate level in the water drops. Now, since the phosphate level in the water is lower than the phosphate level in the rocks, phosphate flows from the rocks into the water, and then from the water into the scrubber. This continues until the phosphate levels in the rocks and water are level again. And remember, you can't see this invisible flow.
This flow causes an interesting thing happens. As the phosphate comes out of the rocks, it then becomes available to feed algae as soon as the phosphate reaches the surface of the rocks where there is light. So, since the surface of the rocks is rough and has light, it starts growing MORE algae there (not less) as the phosphate comes out of the rocks. This is a pretty amazing thing to see for the first time, because if you did not know what was happening you would probably think that the algae in the scrubber was leaking out and attaching to your rocks. Here are the signs of phosphate coming out of the rocks:
1. The rocks are older, and have slowly developed algae problems in the past year.
2. The scrubber is new, maybe only a few months old, and has recently started to grow well.
3. Nitrate and phosphate measurements in the water are low, usually the lowest they have been in a long time.
4. Green hair algae (not brown) on the rocks has increased in certain spots, usually on corners and protrusions at the top.
5. The glass has not needed cleaning as much.
Since skimmers, filter socks, etc don't remove any nitrate and phosphate, and waterchanges and macro's in a fuge don't remove much, most people have never seen the effects of large amounts of phosphate coming out of the rocks quickly. But sure enough, it does. How long does it continue? For 2 months to a year, depending on how much phosphate is in the rocks, how strong your scrubber is, and how many other phosphate-removing filters you have (GFO, carbon dosing, etc). But one day you will see patches of white rock that were covered in green hair the day before; this is a sure sign that the algae are losing their phosphate supply from the rocks and can no longer hold on. Now it's just a matter of days before the rocks are clear.
fish540312
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用UAS第七天了，整片塑膠板開始有點褐藻綠藻及絲藻，主缸的玻璃沒像以前那麼快髒，缸壁上也多了很多小蟲，用了UAS之後真的不需要蛋白嗎？我目前還是不敢拿掉，持續觀察中
UAS的吸收效率如果要大到取代蛋白除沫器,
那藻屏的面積要很大了,不是通常在用的2~30公分以內的藻屏,
而且UAS主要是吸收硝酸鹽跟磷酸鹽,跟蛋白機主要是輸出有機質是不同的性質,
所以蛋白還是留著吧.
那藻屏的面積要很大了,不是通常在用的2~30公分以內的藻屏,
而且UAS主要是吸收硝酸鹽跟磷酸鹽,跟蛋白機主要是輸出有機質是不同的性質,
所以蛋白還是留著吧.
